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nightfox ([personal profile] nightfox) wrote2011-09-16 01:19 pm

Porn Fail

Porn Fail!--Write what you know or Do The Research!!


It must be said, I love porn. I really love it when porn makes it's way into fan fiction. Even though most fan fiction writers are a bit tentative and most of the porn is pretty soft, it can still be very hot. I have to admit, I probably come to it from a different place than most who write fan fiction since I used to write hard-core, kinky-filthy, acts-that-are-still-illegal-in-most-of-the-US type of porn long before I got into writing fan fics. In consideration for the sensibilities of others, I do tone down my porn-lit tendencies in my fan fiction (yes readers, that is the very tame version). Not only have I written some hard-to-swallow stuff, I've lived quite a bit of it. I spent over a year and a half married to a man who used terror as a means to control me. After I escaped and recuperated a while, I spent the next five years in a frenzy of sexual freedom. I indulged just about all of my fantasies and several I hadn't even dreamed up on my own, It is possible to become drunk on freedom. However, I digress. Having had a life-long and abiding love for sex and all things sexual, I have become something of an information sponge when it comes to the subject. What I haven't actually lived out, I've researched pretty thoroughly. All of the major kinks and fetishes have been absorbed and several of the more obscure as well. Standing at the buffet table at many an orgy, I have been told by the sex-obsessed that I "know too damn much about sex." (Sadly, I have a love of sharing what I know and kind of wind up like a professor at a seminar in porn college).

Now, why this exercise in TMI you ask? It's simple. I don't expect everyone who writes fan fiction to have my rather broad acquaintance with acts of a carnal nature. Hell, I have extensive knowledge but even I do not possess an encyclopedic wisdom on the subject. Trust me, there are more kinks out there than any one woman can ever really know. However, if you are going to write about sex, do your research! I will be the first person to applaud imagination but if you are going to, let's say, write about BDSM, do look beyond the fact that participants tend to wear some leather and use implements called "whips" and "floggers". Information is ridiculously easy to come by on the internet and I assume if you are posting on it, you have access to it! I pick BDSM or D/s because it's something a lot of people who don't know latex from leather, cowhide from deerskin or a ball gag from a cock ring like to try and write about! There are so many sites offering information on that particular subject that you can't swing a paddle on the internet without hitting one. You can see photographic evidence of what sort of damage results from a whip, a flogger, a paddle, a crop...I could go on but I think you get my point by now. You'll also quickly find out that to be called "BDSM" or "D/s" the acts must adhere to the concept of "Safe, sane and consensual" If the man/woman wielding the whip didn't ask the man/woman being whipped for permission, than it's torture not BDSM. If someone who's restrained is fucked without permission, it's not domination, it's rape.

Then there is anal sex. I love to read anal sex scenes by someone who's clearly never actually engaged in the act. Spit is not an adequate lube!! Not unless you frequently engage (and have very recently indulged) in anal sex, then sometimes it is. If you want your inexperienced character spit-lubed, prepared to make them hurt! They may enjoy it but it still hurts! No lube at all...crazy pain! Also, a one finger stretch for 30 seconds...not gonna cut it. Again, there is a lot of information available on the subject. Read some of it!

I won't even get started on the many other kinks out there, I'd be typing all day...probably all week. However, I think I've made my point. If you don't know what you are writing about then FIND OUT!

Thank you, that is all.

[identity profile] mrs-leary.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Gosh! Well, as you'd realise by now, I love porn and sex, too. I also love research, whether virtual or actual. And I am constantly amused by how much information on these sorts of things is available on Wikipedia, let alone on any other source.

Though, like anything, I still think there's plenty of room provided by personal judgement and experience, and characterisation.

For example. I don't have direct experience of D/s, but relied on some Wikipedia-related research when I was writing a fic. I chose to use a detail there that I felt fit well with the characters and where they were on their own journies. Someone said, as they were perfectly entitled to do, 'No, I know what I'm talking about, and it doesn't work like that.' I totally respected their opinion, but I still thought it right for the characters and the fic. And obviously whoever wrote that bit of Wikipedia thought it did work like that. So I thanked my beloved reader as kindly as possible, and left the fic as is.

For example. While we're being all TMI here. I do have experience with anal sex, and have never had any need for lube, right from the first time, and even when it's been infrequent. At times it was a little uncomfortable, but it was never painful. So while YMMV, I have felt that I can write such scenes - again, if it fits with the characters and the fic. There are so many factors to take into account, including the characters' attitudes to sex, to safe sex, and to each other, how experienced they each are, and so on.

So, I appreciate where you're coming from, but I still think there's more room for variation in sex scenes than you're asking for here.

[identity profile] k-nightfox.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Very cool, I'm fine with variation and generally don't get all ranty and nit-picky on the small things. I tend to get frustrated when someone's fic is nothing but one ignorant statement after another. I will admit, I wrote this after reading an epically bad attempt at a BDSM fic. It wasn't any one detail that annoyed me, I am aware that everyone's experience of things will differ in some aspects (though you are both rare and lucky as hell to not need lube for anal!)but when it's just one eye-rolling bit of idiocy after another...well, I get a bit disgusted because it just becomes painfully obvious that the author is talking out their ass.

You are not one of these writers. I haven't ever read one of your stories and had the thought, "Nope, that's wrong." As a matter of fact, I've always found your work to be astonishingly accurate in it's depictions of life, emotion and carnal activity.

Also, I am not into ripping people apart. I didn't comment at all on this person's offering. I couldn't think of a way to do it that wouldn't have been crushing. I skimmed the rest of it (desperately looking for something of merit) and then departed without a word. I was seriously tempted to leave a note inquiring as to whether they'd be interested in an honest critique but in the end I didn't. They had major grammar and usage issues besides the technical inaccuracies.

So, if I came off as intolerant of other people's experience, it certainly was not my intention. I'm actually pretty tolerant in general. I read each story I come across with an open mind and strive to find something of merit everyone's work. However, glaring incompetence and obvious laziness remain pet peeves.

[identity profile] mrs-leary.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, hon! Didn't mean to say you shouldn't have a rant, or imply you are intolerant. ♥

[identity profile] k-nightfox.livejournal.com 2011-09-16 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I also should point out, it wasn't just one bad fic that had me off on a rant, it's been building for a while. This was just one final step too far and I pitched off the edge.